Marvel's huge Secret Empire event has thrown the entire Marvel Universe into disarray. Captain America's betrayal was a huge shocker, resonating far beyond the Marvel Universe and into mainstream pop culture. As unbelievable as that moment was, Cap has shocked readers once again, accomplishing a feat seemingly impossible. Writer Nick Spencer sat down with us to discuss this monumental Marvel occurrence.
SPOILERS FOLLOW! The following interview contains spoilers for the Free Comic Book Day issue of Marvel's Secret Empire. If you haven't yet picked up and read your copy, be advised. The spoilers begin after the video below.
Captain America has revealed himself as the leader of Hydra, and Marvel's biggest heroes have gathered. The hammer of Thor, Mjolnir, falls to the ground after the Asgardian disappears and Captain America walks over to it and in a huge shocker, lifts the hammer.
"It's a big moment. It's a big, scary moment for the Marvel Universe," writer Nick Spencer told us. "We wanted an iconic image that would signify to the audience and to everybody in the Marvel Universe that the fight was sort of over before it began."
"We thought 'what's a bigger finish than Hydra Captain Steve getting his hands on that hammer?' It has so much significance and meaning both to the broader Marvel Universe but also to Steve and Steve's own history," Spencer explained. "When he picks that up, it really is your sign that this thing is over before it starts."
But how exactly is Captain America, now the leader of Hydra, able to hoist the mighty hammer? "It certainly is a plot point we're going to keep coming back to and revisiting and talking about," Spencer said. "We're going to talk a little about what the meaning of 'worthiness' is." Spencer said they've worked with Thor writer Jason Aaron "really closely" on not just the story in Secret Empire, but "other ways in which Thor and Asgard will connect" to the book.
"Big plans there," he said.
But the question remains, is there any sort of trickery or illusions at work in Cap's unbelievable feat, or is he actually able to lift Mjolnir?
"Oh, he's really lifting it," Spencer assured us.
"Oh, he's really lifting it," Spencer assured us. "People have their theories. There will be a lot of people who refuse to believe it, but sure does look like he really did lift the hammer."
The impetus for Cap's lifting of Thor's hammer comes from wanting "to bring up the intensity another notch," Spencer said. "When you do something as big as Captain America saying 'Hail Hydra,' that can be a very tough thing to then top the next time around."
"We're constantly looking for ways to make the story bigger, make the story scarier, make it bolder, and this one kind of fell into our laps," he explained.
"Whoever can lift that hammer immediately receives a certain level of reverence and deference within the Marvel Universe. We know that picking up the hammer is a big, big deal, and very very few people can do it. So it's a watershed moment in Cap's whole plan."
"The message that it sends out to everyone across the world is a huge one. It's sort of a credibility building moment for him. He'll always be able to claim whenever people call him evil, or whenever people criticize the things that he's done, he'll be able to say 'I lifted Mjolnir.' So that's another card in his deck now."
As for what the future holds for Secret Empire, Spencer said "now you're going to see the world under Hydra rule. You're going to see the United States under Hydra rule. So you're going to be introduced to a very new environment."
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